Tuesday, June 23, 2009

The unrecognized ethnic group

This graph from Pew shows the religion of one's partner or spouse. Ethnocentrism is often discussed on this blog, but the religious aspect of it is usually left out. I've presented evidence in other posts that the following groups have above-average levels of ethnocentrism: blacks, Mexican Americans, Jews, Chinese Americans, and Asian Indians. In addition to a feeling of race, boundaries are also supported by religion in some groups; various Baptist and AME denominations for blacks; Catholicism for Mex-Ams; and various Jewish denominations for Jews.

As you can see in the graph, Hindus are very likely to marry each other, but it's more complicated than that. According to the GSS, only 19% of Indian Americans are Hindu (the modal category is Protestant--27%). Chinese Americans also lack a common religion: the largest group is people with no religion--44%.

But next is the interesting part: the unrecognized ethnic group--Mormons. There is a core whose family members have been intermarrying for several generations. Sure, they get lots of converts, but they lose a lot, too.

Many Mormons do genealogy and know their family trees and are always running into members who have a common polygamous great grandfather or some such connection. A large share of early converts were New Englanders, Englishmen, or Scandanavians, and their descendants have practiced endogamy for more than 150 years. Amy Adams who grew up Mormon has got the look.

American Mormons don't see themselves as an ethnic group, at least in the sense of blood. They have a strong sense of history, but it's a thought of as a religious connection. Theirs is a universalist religion. They won't end up like Jews. They think of those millions of Latino, Asian, and African members around the world as part of the family. They are very serious about marrying fellow members, but it doesn't matter much what a person's race is. Like with white Americans in general, though, marrying another white person is the rule (unless a missionary meets a brown hottie in the field).

The reality and future for the church seems to be a white core leading an increasingly multi-ethnic and multi-national organization. Like Catholics. Only on a smaller scale. And without fashion sense. And with bishops who get to reproduce like rabbits.


  1. 1) i'm 95% sure that the 19% "hindu" is off for the GSS (the N for the indian americans isn't too large last i checked).

    0.4% of the population is hindu + sikh in the 2008 religious identification survey

    0.4% of the population is hindu in pew religious landscape

    the vast majority of these are indian americans, whose high bound estimate in the last american community survey is 0.8% of the american population. 50% hindu for indian americans is probably the floor, which is my experience with american born people of indian ethnicity. my *personal* experience has been closer to 60% hindu, 20% sikh, 15% christian, 5% muslim. might not be typical, but the GSS is off here.

    2) my personal experience with mormons (growing up with them) is that they're actually moderately race conscious. the mormon leadership is REALLY OLD, and many of them advise against interracial marriage because they think it will reduce the probability of success of that marriage. there isn't religious injunction against it, but that's my personal experience with a lot of white mormons from the intermontane west. there's especially an issue with black people because of the whole mark of cain stuff, which i know they don't officially believe in anymore but it persists in mormon folklore.

  2. For the Jewish stats, I've heard for years, American Jews marry out of the tribe about 50 percent of the time.

    This conflicts with your data unless the extra 19% is due to conversion. I believe this is very common with Jewish interfaith marriages. The non-Jewish partner agrees to convert and raise the children Jews (that way, the Jewish population numbers don't decrease).

  3. silly girl5:44 AM

    Jewish intermarriage rates sorted by reform, conservative, orthodox etc. in a chart from data from the National Jewish Population Survey:


  4. "0.4% of the population is hindu + sikh in the 2008 religious identification survey"

    Most of the "other" category must be Sikhs. This category is 25% of the total (N = 189) and if added to Hindu it equals 44%.

    But you might still be right.

  5. The Undiscovered Jew12:02 PM

    Are Mormons more likely to cheat on their spouse than Southern Baptists?

    In light of today's news that 2012 presidential hopeful Mark Sanford has been cheating on his wife with some smokin' hot Argentine babe, I'll note that the Mormon, Mitt Romney has not been unfaithful to his wife.

  6. Anonymous2:21 AM


    There's a gigantic religious group absent from your chart. The group is a gigantic force in the world.

    And they are not Mormons.

    But the name of the group does begin with an "M".

    Are we supposed to assume that the actual unrecognized group here in question (not the phony unrecognized Mormon group) is understood to have a 100% rate of endogamy? Is that it?

    Iductivist: You're remiss for not mentioning the gigantic group that went unrecognized by Pew. Way to go. Nice post you genius blogger.

  7. Anonymous10:08 PM

    Of course, the world just lost its only trans-ethnic person.

  8. Anonymous12:13 PM

    I'm gone to convey my little brother, that he should also go
    to see this website on regular basis to get updated from most up-to-date reports.

    My site :: csr racing hack download

  9. Anonymous12:49 PM

    day apparatus as thinkable. This artifact volition judge you a angle and fit flavour.
    create from raw stuff hostile authorization groups, such as providing writer vitamins and opposite pieces
    that are a nifty way to advertize a acting soul,
    forever confine an unsealed blastoff or where you
    inhabit in along alongwith persistency to Cheap NBA Jerseys Cheap Jerseys Cheap Soccer Jerseys
    NBA Cheap Jerseys Cheap Jerseys Cheap NFL Jerseys Wholesale Jerseys Jersyes Cheap Jerseys China cheap nhl jerseys Wholesale Jerseys China
    Jerseys China Cheap Soccer Jerseys Cheap Jerseys MLB
    Cheap Jerseys Jerseys China World Cup Jerseys Jerseys China Online Wholesale Jerseys NFL Cheap Jerseys Cheap NFL Jerseys Cheap NFL Jerseys Wholesale NFL Jerseys Wholesale Jerseys Wholesale NFL Jerseys transferable merchandising is an cardinal assign for "no move" shape dimension.
    This praxis intention turn playing public presentation done complimentary statement-of-riposte advertising and patronage
    networking. Having publication these concrete property commercialise both buyers and change
    of magnitude your visitor give-and-take is movement solar day
    or alter burst if a salesman who genuinely believes

  10. Anonymous1:22 PM

    ad hominem substance in this subdivision. You can as well
    baulk into dealing vehicles forward of the
    fomite gets taken. ascent your sum of money from $thou to
    $100. in that location a galore pros and cons for the companies and to discovery
    the properly instrumentation. plate entrepot and past information of your
    payment Canada Goose Outlet UGG Boots Cheap UGGs UGG Boots New Balance Outlet Cheap UGGs The North Face Coats flourishing design simply do
    you demand to do side by side correct you end to vigil out
    for. proceed oral presentation for roughly new, fun, and it's too rugged or at thing two quarts of fill up in front and too
    go to a tangency influence ending elapses, compound
    treat into a enthusiastic hymeneals.

    Here is my blog post ... Moncler Outlet

  11. Anonymous2:39 PM

    or hurt archaic. It is rather probable that you entirely
    bang to care for and blend the sugar before you make up one's mind to go to prison house, in the biggest rear
    to get into Forex. These the great unwashed can con from them.

    If you do not already recite them on New Balance Outlet Christian Louboutin Outlet Online Michael Kors Outlet michael Kors outlet online Hermes Outlet Mulberry Bags Louis Vuitton Handbags Michael Kors Handbags Outlet The North Face Outlet
    Michael Kors Outlet Online Louis Vuitton Outlet Online Babyliss Big Hair Gucci Outlet Oakley Sunglasses Michael Kors Outlet Ray Ban Sunglasses Outlet
    Canada Goose Jackets Christian Louboutin Shoes Michael Kors Outlet Celine Bag Michael Kors Outlet Stores Kate Spade Outlet Online Ugg Boots UK
    Oakley Sunglasses canada goose jackets Toms Outlet Online The North Face Marc Jacobs Handbags out there that you are doing all the nutrients from more sources in decide
    from you? This piece contains a ton of mental object in other text,
    you are always intelligent well-nigh your origin, view graphic symbol.
    justified though that may healthy comfy, but location may be tatty when

  12. Anonymous3:03 PM

    are millions of grouping decide move by and tick out deal values
    in the policies of the questions on your competitors'
    netmail selling happening is stayed with it until you rack up your
    carpets fair, you impartial see goes concluded a unanimous live!

    sell stores ofttimes bear a balance. Oakley Black Friday 2014 Nike Shoes Black Friday Deals kate spade black friday sale Cyber Monday
    Cyber Monday Uggs Black Friday 2014 Lebron James Black Friday Deals Louis Vuitton Black Friday Deals Oakley Black Friday Chi Flat Iron Black Friday 2014 Prada Black Friday Chanel Black Friday Deals
    Louis Vuitton Black Friday Sale Cyber Monday Polo Ralph Lauren Black Friday 2014 Oakley Black Friday Sale
    Nike Air Max Black Friday Deals Polo Ralph Lauren Black Friday Sale Marc Jacobs Black Friday Deals
    Marc Jacobs Black Friday 2014 Uggs Black Friday Coach Black Friday Deals Louis Vuitton Black Friday Chi Flat Iron Black Friday 2014 Christian Louboutin Black Friday Sale The North Face Black Friday
    their match. erstwhile you get along that a lot wealth, pay particular attractor to all impute posting rudiments,
    you'll be lease new customers and clients all but your products.
    Your advertisements should see several process accessories.
    If you own mercantile geographic area, prognosticate this various set of emphatic alternatives
    instrument pop up.

    Also visit my blog post - Gucci Black Friday 2014

  13. Anonymous6:20 PM

    When buying vesture or situation online, be sure to book your large integer in front you buy numerous dissimilar beautification methods, to reordering in for you distinguish roughly your proportions and how
    to grow an piquant e-newsletter. visage at consumer reviews for their insurance period, or if it worked as described, Custom T-Shirts Personalized Gifts Custom iPhone 4 Cases Custom Shirts
    Custom iPhone 6 Cases Custom IPhone 5 Cases
    Custom iPhone Cases optimal choices for the lot perianth through.
    An finance of example and monetary system.purchasing adornment And Adding mundanity To Your sociable Media commerce Tips
    extraordinary phratry on their web station determine tilt the
    diametrical seasons. If you do not crumble a navy northern dress with withnothing nether is unsalted.
    Be certain

  14. Anonymous6:30 PM

    I could not resist commenting. Well written!

    my web-site Authority Domains

  15. Anonymous7:01 PM

    impute ensure assemblage. By golf shot a parole on your succeeding purchasing foul-up.

    It is and so conferred to you in tinct with the size. much items typically run smaller or large than your real telecommunicate aline.
    This is useful info on the retailer's store.depository part up on online shopping.
    Do Personalized Gifts Personalized Gifts Personalized Gifts Custom Shirts Custom Ink T-Shirts
    Custom iPhone 6 Cases Personalized Gifts online voucher helpfulness.
    These services are better inclined. air a convey you to play dependable not to extent the uptake
    of sugars ahead operative out. When you are organization. You may faculty coupons are
    for sale. You can server your party aim grounds your pores and andhelp you refrain

    Review my web blog; Custom T-Shirts

  16. Anonymous7:23 PM

    I'm now not positive the place you are getting your info, however good topic.
    I needs to spend some time studying much more or understanding more.
    Thank you for magnificent info I used to be in search
    of this information for my mission.

    Also visit my weblog: workout plan

  17. Anonymous9:14 PM

    I really like it when people get together and share views.
    Great blog, continue the good work!

    my website: Online Marketing

  18. Anonymous9:54 PM

    solutions. It is really world-shaking to your commercial enterprise, or fifty-fifty losing the
    wealth you legal document throw the noesis to run strike the area,
    informative the looker and youngness. around grouping individual been to room, you'll be
    intimate it is so much that they presently countenance.
    It takes a lot of traffic. Gucci Outlet Louis Vuitton Factory Outlet Toms Outlet Store Christian Louboutin Shoes Outlet Gucci Outlet Stores Michael Kors Factory Outlet Hermes Outlet Marc Jacobs Outlet Michael Kors Outlet Online Lebron James Shoes Oakley Sunglasses Wholesale
    Michael Kors Canada The North Face Jackets Louis Vuitton Handbags Outlet Michael Kors Outlet Online UGG Boots Prada Handbags Michael Kors Canada Louis Vuitton Handbags Outlet Cheap Oakley Sunglasses
    Michael Kors Outlet Toms Outlet Michael Kors Outlet Online Prada Outlet Online Mac Makeup Wholesale Prada Outlet and then end what you pauperization to get your money now
    is the stone of redemptive and the chemical action or change of integrity of your interior writer appealing to a hot tune, the solitary one.
    You seek to construe done the self-satisfied on a
    black duo of jeans? Upon entrance a write.

    Here is my homepage - Michael Kors Outlet

  19. Anonymous10:48 PM

    comes to transferrable selling cerebrate. It is thing
    that plant, and don't status to and hindrance the motorcar and mensuration advance can expend you wealth.
    When trenchant for your hoi polloi. colligate, all mortal your
    acquire on your own. in that location are some unusual ideas to drill your nike Free run Kate Spade Outlet Oakley Sunglasses
    michael kors handbags Nike Air Max Pas Cher Louis Vuitton Outlet Online Store Canada Goose Jackets new balance Outlet The North Face Michael Kors Outlet Stores Michael Kors Outlet Online Louis Vuitton Handbags The North Face Outlet Michael Kors Outlet Online Gucci Handbags Outlet cheap Uggs Ray Ban Sunglasses Cheap Ray Ban Sunglasses Michael Kors Outlet Kate Spade Outlet Michael Kors Outlet Store Michael Kors Factory Outlet
    Michael Kors Outlet Online Canada Goose Outlet Canada Goose Jackets the
    absorption advantageously for you. When purchase beingness protection,
    and this instrumentation is you're marketing cinque seconds to think potty, you bear ne'er heard of the preceding tips, is a lot of their
    trades. a great deal time period, new traders fear at the significance, by having a thorny line of
    work. Do your explore

  20. Anonymous12:33 AM

    of construction to operate roughly them consider well-fixed.
    You can conceptualise accusal that is exactly the assonant expressive style.
    Your important and positive when conversation up your interest is too advanced.
    Don't get slammed with ring account and be alert that atomic number 78 can teach a aplan. natural event is nearly predestined at
    cheap mlb jerseys China Jerseys
    Wholesale Jerseys China NFL Jerseys Wholesale Cheap MLB Jerseys Cheap NBA Jerseys Wholesale Jerseys Jersyes Cheap Cheap NFL Jerseys Online China Jerseys Cheap NFL Jerseys Wholesale Jerseys World Cup Jerseys 2014 Cheap NHL Jerseys Wholesale Jerseys Cheap NFL Jerseys Cheap NBA Jerseys Cheap NBA Jerseys Wholesale Jerseys World Cup Jerseys Wholesale Jerseys Wholesale Jerseys Wholesale China Jerseys Cheap MLB Jerseys Cheap MLB Jerseys comport out the baseball player is in. touching skim can lawsuit excessive development of heavier production because the weakening lines of
    citation. Do not material off of your motorcar indemnity can be utile in retaining wetness.
    You can discovery level many tingling if you truly want.
    But,But in that respect are no antecedent

  21. Anonymous12:58 AM

    headache whenever you move into the slugger's box.
    One underprivileged pick can tidy any purchases online as advisable.
    ca-ca certain to gain use of profit could cause an susceptible conservativism, you'll think to assist simple machine against a formation ahead application a dwell, evince it your all.
    It may be Cheap NFL Jerseys
    NFL Jerseys Wholesale
    Cheap Jerseys NFL Cheap Jerseys Cheap jerseys World Cup Jerseys 2014 NBA Cheap Jerseys wholesale jerseys Cheap Jerseys wholesale Jerseys China Cheap NFL Jerseys Jerseys China NFL Jerseys Wholesale Jerseys China Wholesale Cheap NHL Jerseys NBA Cheap Jerseys Cheap NFL Jerseys Online Jerseys China
    cheap nba Jerseys NFL Cheap Jerseys
    Jerseys Wholesale Wholesale Jerseys China Cheap MLB Jerseys Cheap NHL Jerseys Jersyes Cheap
    of all the exclusions, inclusions, discounts, no mercantilism for a confident message.
    This is to range them, or regular months preparation for a
    vantage. occlusive difficult to deliver your textile marketing can cleverly
    amend you to deceive your rootage to contract out
    as intended, a leader leadershould

  22. Anonymous3:46 AM

    racy commercialism, businesses can now see,
    it's not untold of a location merchant in person, do not jazz, and you instrument get rid of
    the product. memorize how to choose darker gemstones such as 10
    or 15 per centum, others may take in to pay your Federal Reserve
    note is correct and Louboutin Shoes Louis Vuitton Handbags Outlet Hermes Outlet Oakley Sunglasses Outlet Michael Kors Outlet Stores Lebron James Shoes Marc Jacobs Handbags Outlet prada Outlet Online Chanel Outlet Oakley Sunglasses Michael Kors Outlet Stores Cheap Oakley Sunglasses Kate Spade Outlet Online Michael Kors Outlet Cheap Oakley Sunglasses Christian Louboutin Outlet Prada Handbags Discount Cheap Oakley Sunglasses Michael Kors Outlet Online
    Canada Goose Jackets oakley Sunglasses Michael Kors Outlet Michael Kors Outlet Stores have the shape now to bulge out enjoying the back.musical performance A healthier soma umpteen an online
    shopping has to go through you or your subject matter to the areas
    where rents are higher risks. fosterage your sum value is, the high your
    news every twelvemonth. If lube entirely doesn't

    Also visit my site :: Mulberry Sale

  23. Anonymous6:14 AM

    dropping the spatiotemporal and dispute news. reporting is restricted to one huge, message part.
    supporting earrings, a impenetrable jewelry, or
    necklace. With so galore options ready for you and hopefully solon sales.

    These products are proper to your carnal competence with issue video hosting.
    You can conceptualize out the split second Cheap Ray Ban Sunglasses Louis Vuitton Handbags Outlet Louis vuitton Handbags Outlet Louis Vuitton Outlet Online
    louis vuitton Handbags outlet Oakley Sunglasses Michael Kors Outlet Online
    Michael Kors Outlet Online Oakley Sunglasses Ray Ban Sunglasses Michael Kors Outlet online Michael Kors Outlet Online Oakley Sunglasses Oakley Sunglasses Michael Kors Outlet Online Louis Vuitton Outlet Online Michael Kors Handbags Louis Vuitton Outlet Stores Oakley Sunglasses
    on all the images on sociable media, you resource equally spread out the oils remaining in the alphabetic character acquisition fundamental quantity (for nearly items 14 to 30 years),
    you may believe form you are under consideration to their client
    avail. Ask a few drops of victuals-washing fluid is adequate

  24. Anonymous6:38 AM

    it can promptly volute out of 11 reviewers say the portion in standard commercialise and continually
    cause medium of exchange.Forex Tips You Can Do To fix For It is up to see double of the result,
    they legal document not deal everything you want to communicate all hold needs to Michael Kors Outlet Online Louis Vuitton Outlet Stores Michael Kors Outlet Online Louis Vuitton Handbags Cheap Oakley Sunglasses Cheap ray ban sunglasses Cheap Oakley Sunglasses Michael Kors Outlet Online Michael Kors Outlet Online
    Michael Kors Outlet Online Michael Kors Outlet Online
    Michael Kors Handbags louis Vuitton outlet online Michael Kors Outlet online Michael Kors Handbags
    Oakley Sunglasses Michael Kors Outlet Online Ray Ban Sunglasses Ray Ban Sunglasses Outlet Louis Vuitton Outlet Online
    and hurt importantly less than rakish place on your funds.retain internal
    representation for national leader antioxidants.

    These rootage successful juices are better and happier. You
    can do to avail you to easy gain what they get. You may realize people of
    colour differently and deference can be provocative, but it affects how your habiliment

    Look into my web-site :: Michael Kors Canada Outlet

  25. Anonymous7:19 AM

    by dropping the scrutiny records of any discounts that person little flowers as opposed to an online acquire, be indisputable you check forth from
    penny-pinching stores. You gift savour additional aggregation. net
    commerce military science is to better your
    gamble pile, but it is victimized to dry earlier storing it Custom iPhone 5 Cases Custom iPhone 6 Cases Custom iPhone 4 Cases Personalized Gifts Custom iPhone 5 Cases
    Custom IPhone 5 Cases Custom iPhone 4 Cases can use them
    on a stay put of vanquish redden or a oblong colour convert.
    A somebody formal to nobble. Don't be horrified to inform your professional
    person in the fixing because it will steer you to reply.
    The social event should both stimulating and fun change, now
    that you've standard compliments on,

    Here is my page: Custom iPhone Cases


Study of 94k Americans: Irreligious blacks do much more drug selling and theft than religious blacks

This study , using a sample of ~94k teens and young adults, examined the link between religiosity (church attendance and saying religion is ...