Saturday, January 30, 2010

Political party and favoring more Haitian immigration

This Gallup graph shows a 30 point split (57% versus 27%) between Democrats and Republicans on favoring more Haitian immigrants.


  1. Doug18:24 AM

    At this stage about 90% of Haitians would come to the US if they could. That's absurd. I'm adamantly opposed to letting more in. We can't make any substantial difference in Haiti's difficulties by letting any reasonable number in. And it would hurt the US near and long term a lot to try to do so. Help them there. But really, it's mostly up to them, when all is said and done. As it is for any country if it wants to be successful.

    The fact that some of the earlier Haitians have done fairly well in the US, e.g. many of the one's that settled in and around New York, is misleading. They were largely drawn from Haiti's mulatto elite and middle class, or higher iq blacks, fleeing political persecution of Papa Doc and Baby Doc Duvalier.

    Later and more average class origin Haitians (for Haiti), who've tended to concentrate more in and around Miami have very low incomes. The average Haitian family income in Miami Dade county is about $12,500 or $6,500 per capita - which is obviously terribly low.

    Letting in any significant number of Haitians at a time when the official US unemployment rate is sticking above 10% and the estimated real unemployment rate is about 18% (when one includes the long term discouraged), will either take jobs from Americans who can't get work, or increase our welfare roles at a time when states are teetering on bankruptcy. No thank you.

    Tough things happen. The US is being plenty generous to Haiti. Letting lots of them in would hurt our country and it's citizens short term and long.

    Long term because Haitians frankly aren't very smart. In fact they're WAY down there. In fact on average Haitians are pretty dim. The average Haitian IQ is in the 72-75 range, versus the US average now of 98. (Was 100, but we've been letting in or anyway largely letting stay lots of illegal Mexican heavily Indio peasants and other Central Americans). Sure there are SOME smart or fairly smart Haitians. It's a bell curve. It's just a very left shifted bell cuvre for Haitians compared to Euros or E.Asians. And we (and Canada) have already siphoned off a large percentage of their most intelligent, in previous legal and illegal Haitian immigration, fleeing Haitian tyrants.

  2. Anonymous11:23 AM

    Some first world company needs to start a governing enterprise so that non functioning countries can contract with the company to run their country.

    Democracy is for the able. Haitians are not able to self-govern.

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  4. Anonymous5:52 PM

    We have over 10% unemployment right now, we simply dont have jobs for these people. If we were having 4% unemployment and needed many more very unskilled, but strong-backed laborers, one could see letting a few in, but at this time its illogical and harmful to our own poor.

  5. More importantly, independents are with the Republicans on this issue.

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A pure naturist would claim that the culture of East Asians would not change after moving to America. Let's test this with one question ...