Saturday, March 26, 2011

The monster ethnic group

According to the 2010 Census, Hispanics in America have now surpassed 50 million. That is 16.1 percent of the total population. I've listed the 2000-2008 GSS percentages for large ethnic groups (sample size = 11,840) :

Percent of total U.S. population

Hispanic 16.1 (2010 Census)
German 15.1
Black 14.3
Irish 12.3
English/Welsh 11.4
Italian 5.5
American only 3.0

Hispanics are now the largest group. Demographically speaking, America is more Hispanic than it is German, black, Irish, English, etc. On the other hand, "Hispanic" is a contrived category. If we focus on Mexican Americans only-- a real ethnic group--they are two-thirds of Hispanics which would put them currently at 10.6 percent of the U.S. population. That is larger than any other ethnic group except for Germans. And as big as they are, Germans do not stick out in American society; Mexicans do.

Demographers project that Hispanics will be one-third of the population by 2050. (That will only happen if we let it.) Considered as an ethnic group, they will dwarf every other ethnicity. They might become the monster ethnic group, but then again, their growing presence, along with that of other non-white immigrant groups, might forge whites into a real, monster ethnic group.


  1. I know there are a lot of Scotch-Irish in the South who don't identify as anything other than American, which is why German always came up as the biggest group when it's probably the second-biggest.

    Somehow I wonder if part of the reason Jews like immigration so much is that they look at the list of groups, see 'German' at the top, and think, 'That can't be good.'

  2. More seriously: I don't know if the rising number of Hispanics will spur white nationalism or not. It seems to be happening in Arizona.

  3. The "Americans" are probably just English. But a lot of the "Irish" are more German (and also English) but don't want to admit it.

  4. Anonymous1:35 PM

    I think the white American element is mostly Scotch-Irish and German.
    Many people who call themselves just Irish are really Scotch-Irish. And also, during the World Wars, many Americans hid or downplayed German ancestry.

    And I think Hispanic is a ridiculous term that needs to end.
    Putting an Argentine, Mexican and a Dominican under one term is like lumping together a white Irishman, a Lakota Indian from South Dakota and a Jamaican, under an umbrella "Anglo" category.

  5. White Americans-except for Jews and some other Middle Easterners and Central Asians-are simply white Americans. No one can seriously argue otherwise. I grew up in Chicago-the heart of the old white ethnic America- and personally witnessed Slavs, Italians, etc. merge into "whiteness".

  6. I'm not so sure that "that will only happen if we let it." Even if we stop all immigration now, the percentage of the US population which is Hispanic will continue to increase due to higher birthrates.

  7. Hispanics are now the largest group. Demographically speaking

    Among Californians under-18, Hispanics are an absolute majority, so you don't even need to fiddle with semantics to make them seem big anymore.

  8. SFG wrote:
    I wonder if part of the reason Jews like immigration so much is that they look at the list of groups, see 'German' at the top, and think, 'That can't be good.'

    It goes without saying that if the USA turned anti-Semitic, that would be a disaster for the Jews.

    Between USA and Israel, you've got the vast majority of world-Jewry. And Israel is sort-of-a client of USA. (Though sometimes the relationship seems the other way.. "We control the USA and the Americans know it" -- Ariel Sharon, quoted in Israeli press, 2001). Take away USA's protection and largese, Israel might not last.

    How to prevent the USA from "going anti-Semitic"? Make the population to "Diverse" to have any coherent message, with the native population too demoralized to care.

    Hence overwhelming Jewish support for immigration.

  9. Anonymous7:19 AM

    Alright but let's examine it by the gradience you used for white Americans.

    0.64(% that are Mexican)x16 comes out to ten million or so Mexicans.

    Good reason why Germans don't stick out. They were forced to Americanize given WW1.

  10. Somehow I wonder if part of the reason Jews like immigration so much is that they look at the list of groups, see 'German' at the top, and think, 'That can't be good.'

    I've thought about that too, but it seems that leftist Jews' vitriol is reserved for Anglo Southerners, not the mellow German Midwesterners (who can be often be convinced to vote Dem).

  11. Simon1:24 AM

    The biggest ethnic group in the USA is British, Utah is one of the few states were English is the largest ethnicity. The main reason for this is that Mormon's know their family tree. As far as white ethnicity goes, I don't think census figures are reliable.

  12. "I've thought about that too, but it seems that leftist Jews' vitriol is reserved for Anglo Southerners, not the mellow German Midwesterners (who can be often be convinced to vote Dem)."

    Yeah, the South's the reddest part of the country, the Midwest's more magenta.

    I always did get a kick out of seeing neo-Nazis in the Midwest march with the German flag. Yes, the flag of the Weimar Republic the real Nazis hated so much!

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