Only a small percent of engineers are women. Feminists claim that misogynist forces keep females out of the profession. Once again, the data show that biology is implicated. A new study by John Manning and colleagues shows that levels of testosterone, both during prenatal development as well as adulthood, predict having a job in a male-dominated field. High testosterone individuals, male or female, are more likely to work as engineers, IT dudes, or skilled laborers, while low T people are more likely to work in education or as homemakers. At least part of workplace sex segregation is due to gender differences in this very important hormone.
Note to feminists: get over it.
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While I'm a big believer in the brain differences between populations of males and females, this study doesn't impress me, Ron.
ReplyDeleteEven the correlate of digit ratios leaves me unimpressed. I know you've seen those pictures of hands and digit lengths, the pics that purport to show the difference in digit ratios of homosexual men and heterosexual men. The pic of a so-called "homosexual" hand looked really weird to me the first time I saw one. I had never seen anyone with relative finger lengths like that. So, for the next few months, as I spoke to the people at work, I made a point of looking at men's hands, not just the men I knew were gay (I think there were 10 that I knew were gay) but the hands of all the men on staff that I came across. Only one man had digits similar to those in the pic. He was married with three kids, and he was a jock. LOL. NOt one gay male had finger ratios like those in the pic.
For a time, at faculty meetings, I found myself staring at the hair whorl on the back of the head of any man who sat in front of me, but I gave that up.
The correlates are unimpressive in a lot of these studies.
I have argued with feminists before. They NEVER admit that innate sex differences are important.
ReplyDeleteThey might counter your argument and say that working in a male-dominated environment raises your testosterone. They can also say that high levels of prenatal testosterone affect how you look and thus how people treat you. This in turn causes you to act differently.
I was once debating a very intelligent, feminist, female friend of mine and used the example of identical twins reared apart to argue that genetic influences are important. She countered that since identical twins look alike, they get treated similarly, and that the similarity in treatment causes them to end up acting similar.
"She countered that since identical twins look alike, they get treated similarly, and that the similarity in treatment causes them to end up acting similar."
ReplyDeleteugh, no evidence. not even common knowledge.
Honestly, does everyone treat you the same?
They sure don't treat me the same. Some treat me well, others don't. But I look the same as myself, shouldn't everyone treat me the same?
What idiocy.
She wasted her intelligence on exerting her imagination.
"They sure don't treat me the same. Some treat me well, others don't. But I look the same as myself, shouldn't everyone treat me the same?"
ReplyDeleteShe could counter that the average of the interactions that someone has is determined by his looks. It is ridiculous, but those are mental pretzels that feminists put themselves through.
"She could counter that the average of the interactions that someone has is determined by his looks. It is ridiculous, but those are mental pretzels that feminists put themselves through."
ReplyDeleteYes, of course, we could all speculate endlessly and get nowhere. Mercifully we have data and objective criteria, so we can actually get somewhere. Unfortunately some idiots refuse to do so.
So there are lots of black guys in engineering and IT?
ReplyDelete" High testestorone individuals, male or female, are more likely to work as engineers, IT dudes, or skilled laborers, while low T people are more likely to work in education or as homemakers."
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Black guys are more likely to work in male dominated work. How many female sanitation workers have you see? How many black guys?
It is not just about IT and engineering. It is about male dominated fields like truck driving, too.
I don't think this is too convincing either. A consequence of having a lot of testosterone may simply be wanting to hang out around other men. This doesn't contradict the feminist claim that the workplace is masculinized and that the status-quo alienates women in such male-dominated jobs.
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