Thursday, November 17, 2011

Hispanics are now the face of American poverty























This graph from Pew shows that if the poverty rate is adjusted for such items as medical expenses, tax credits, and non-cash government benefits, Hispanics become the poorest large group of Americans. Over the past 45 years, we have imported a population which is now bigger and poorer than the black community. Our worst enemies could never have done this to us.

21 comments:

Anonymous said...

There is no real poverty in the US. There is just low status/income and dysfunction.

Anonymous said...

Interesting that Asians, supposedly the perfect minority, also show higher poverty than whites.

jnaciona said...

I wonder how much of an effect this has on the income gap in the US. I'm guessing that the immigration issue and the income inequality issue are related.

IHTG said...

Interesting that Asians, supposedly the perfect minority, also show higher poverty than whites.

Immigrants. They haven't accumulated property yet.

TH said...

There's also a lot of variation between different Asian groups. E.g. the Hmong are probably as poor as any group in America.

Anonymous said...

Immigrants.


How do you know?

Jim Bowery said...

"Our worst enemies could never have done this to us."

By definition, our worst enemies did this to us.

Anonymous said...

"By definition, our worst enemies did this to us."

those would be our parents and grandparents who voted for the politicians who did this.

They could have voted out the anti American scum, but they didn't. And those scum appointed the judiciary. And now the game is over.

pzed said...

Hispanic buying power has increased 100% over the past 10 years, more than Asian buying power which has only increased 89%. This is just a temporary artifact.

The bitterness of some posters is laughable. The real losers aren't the hard working Hispanics, even if of they're of unremarkable intelligence. It's the whites that sit at home and bitch and moan about the loss of "their" country as if they've ever done anything to earn what they were born into.

Anonymous said...

Hispanic buying power has increased 100% over the past 10 years, more than Asian buying power which has only increased 89%.


Gee, could that have anything to do with the fact that the Hispanic population has grown much faster than the Asian one?


The bitterness of some posters is laughable.


While your stupidity, pettiness and spitefulness is entirely admirable, right?


the loss of "their" country as if they've ever done anything to earn what they were born into


That's what a country is, you pathetic half-wit: something passed down from one generation to the next.

pzed said...

"Gee, could that have anything to do with the fact that the Hispanic population has grown much faster than the Asian one?

Wrong on two counts. Buying power is the total personal income of residents that is available, after taxes, for spending on virtually everything that they buy, but it does not include dollars that are borrowed or that were saved in
previous years. It's not an aggregate number.

Also, Asians were the fastest growing minority, not Hispanics.

That's what a country is, you pathetic half-wit: something passed down from one generation to the next.

Contrary to your definition, I don't think a nation is an inheritance. That was done away with when monarchs ceased to rule. It's just a political and legal unit, and laws are hardly immutable things. But that's a side argument.

My main point (which I admittedly didn't spell out earlier) was that previous generations had accomplished impressive things. The wars fought over independence, slavery, WW2, etc were things that really made a difference. If anyone had the right to determine how citizenship was defined, it was people of those times. They earned it. The 14th amendment was written during Reconstruction. The Chinese Exclusion Act was written near this time and repealed in 1943 when allies were needed. People now? What have we done? We're fighting wars against boogiemen living in caves. We sent troops overseas and promptly forgot about them as taxes and property prices drowned out mention of the war in the news. Few people care or talk about troops because there's so little at stake. The people living in this generation haven't done anything so important that they can sit on a high horse and judge others as unworthy without looking really silly. What have you done in service of your nation that gives you the moral high ground to denigrate hard workers who came here for a better life? Beyond being lucky enough to be born here I mean.

Anonymous said...

Contrary to your definition, I don't think a nation is an inheritance.


Contrary to what you "think" (and we're using the word loosely here) a nation is what I said it is.

Etymology of the word nation:
"The word nation came to English from the Old French word nacion which in turn originates from the Latin word natio (nātĭō) literally meaning "that which has been born"".


That was done away with when monarchs ceased to rule.


Nations have nothing to do with monarchy, any more than they have anything to do with democracy or dictatorship. Those are all political systems, and a nation is not a political system. It's an extended family.



My main point (which I admittedly didn't spell out earlier) was that previous generations had accomplished impressive things.


Your problem lies in thinking that those people are completely separate from the current people, when in fact they are joined together by chains of DNA and ideas.


The 14th amendment was written during Reconstruction.


I'm not even going to ask you what you imagine the 14th Amendment says, because I've sure you have some idiotic left-wing take on the matter.


The people living in this generation haven't done anything so important that they can sit on a high horse and judge others as unworthy without looking really silly.


They don't need to do anything other than exist in order to judge "others" to be unworthy to become Americans.



What have you done in service of your nation that gives you the moral high ground to denigrate hard workers who came here for a better life?


You possess all the mental acuity of a lefty college professor. Let's set aside what I've done in the "service" of my country - ranging from military veteran to taxpayer to law-abiding citizen to raising the next generation of Americans.

Even if I had done none of these things, I possess the "moral high ground" necessary to "denigrate hard workers who come here for a batter life" (you sure like to stack the deck in your favor, don't cha?) simply by being American. Possession is ownership. The people of China do not have to "earn" the "right" to possess their country. The people of Germany do not have to "earn" the "right" to possess their country. The people of Norway do not have to "earn" the "right" to possess their country. They posses it by virtue of being Chinese, Germans, and Norwegians.

Only in America do we encounter brain-dead lefties like yourself who think that Americans have to pass a test (set by and graded by the self-same brain-dead leftists, naturally) in order to possess their country.

If you seriously believed the crap you're spouting then you should believe that Americans who fail to "earn" the "right" to be Americans should be expelled from the country.

Of course, high on the list of people who would then be expelled would be you.

Anonymous said...

Wrong on two counts. Buying power is the total personal income of residents that is available, after taxes, for spending on virtually everything that they buy, but it does not include dollars that are borrowed or that were saved in
previous years. It's not an aggregate number.




"Hispanic buying power" is the total buying power of the Hispanic population. It is an aggregate number. I guess we can add this to the list of terms you completely fail to understand.

Perhaps you were looking for something like "per capita Hispanic buying power" or "per capita Hispanic wage" or some such. Of course then you run into reality again, because the per capita wages of Hispanics in America has not increased by 100% in the last ten years.

Reality has always been the enemy of leftism.

John said...

Contrary to your definition, I don't think a nation is an inheritance. That was done away with when monarchs ceased to rule. It's just a political and legal unit, and laws are hardly immutable things. But that's a side argument.

This doesn't seem to be a "side argument" but fundamental to this whole dispute.

In this case, two different people have different definitions of what "nation" is. This dispute can be resolved by separation. One side with its own definition of "nation" gets its own land under its own rules, and the same for the other side. However, some kind of separation doesn't seem to be an acceptable resolution to you. You want a uniform definition of "nation" imposed on everybody. If that's the case, you're still left with the fundamental dispute. You have to resolve it somehow. How do you want to resolve it? Through a fight? War? Words? Even with words, it ultimately comes down to force - you need force and violence to back up words. So what is it?

Anonymous said...

In this case, two different people have different definitions of what "nation" is.


You give him too much credit. He does not really think that "nation" means anything other than what it means. He thinks the concept of "nation" is outmoded and should be replaced by the fresh new libertarian idea of the country as a really big corporation, with the old notion of "citizen" replaced by "employee".

In this scheme of things, AmeriCorp has every right to "hire" new "workers" if it thinks they are harder working (or lazier but willing to work cheaper) than its existing "workforce".

This is modern libertarianism - it glorifies the state and shits on the individual.

John said...

You give him too much credit. He does not really think that "nation" means anything other than what it means.

Well it doesn't matter what we call it. The point is that there is this dispute. It can be resolved by separation. If you don't want separation, then that means you want to impose a uniform position imposed on everyone. In that case, since there are other positions and views, there has to be some way of resolving it.

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