tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26188478.post2186397030020497022..comments2024-03-24T21:25:13.059-07:00Comments on Inductivist: A critique of Charlton's "clever sillies"Ron Guhnamehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06421460508647618774noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26188478.post-5316691684700826642010-11-11T03:09:44.840-08:002010-11-11T03:09:44.840-08:00dearieme wrote:
Charlton may have formed his view ...dearieme wrote:<br /><i>Charlton may have formed his view by observing the antics of academics.</i><br /><br />Good point. Academics could have formed their bizarre viewpoints simply because the reality check isn't there for them to cash. If so, clever silliness is an effect, not a cause.Ray Mantanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26188478.post-78607378397309069642010-11-03T21:01:30.448-07:002010-11-03T21:01:30.448-07:00Another one relevant to Woodley's theory is tw...Another one relevant to Woodley's theory is <a href="http://www.overcomingbias.com/2010/02/two-kinds-of-status.html" rel="nofollow">two kinds of status</a>.TGGPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11017651009634767649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26188478.post-2096128288229691732010-11-03T20:58:06.265-07:002010-11-03T20:58:06.265-07:00Have any of you been reading Robin Hanson's fa...Have any of you been reading Robin Hanson's <a href="http://www.overcomingbias.com/tag/forage" rel="nofollow">farmer/forager</a> theory?TGGPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11017651009634767649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26188478.post-20055053160282272062010-11-03T14:55:48.411-07:002010-11-03T14:55:48.411-07:00You can see the whole of my paper on 'clever s...You can see the whole of my paper on 'clever sillies' here: <br /><br />http://medicalhypotheses.blogspot.com/2009/11/clever-sillies-why-high-iq-lack-common.html<br /><br />Bruce G CharltonBruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26188478.post-88185510763522232922010-11-03T07:37:20.067-07:002010-11-03T07:37:20.067-07:00Charlton's view, here echoed by Mr Donald and ...Charlton's view, here echoed by Mr Donald and dearieme, is that our PC elite actually believe the rubbish they spew. I have not seen him justify this belief particularly convincingly, and I find it a very strange belief indeed. Why is Amy Biehl an exception rather than the rule?<br /><br />I know a very PC guy, so PC that he sends his children to urban government schools. Curious about this, I (privately, discreetly, after being on good terms with him for more than a decade) asked him un-PC questions, whereupon I was informed that as long as you get your children into gifted programs, the schools his kids go to are OK. The gifted program is a little segregated school-within-a-school (not his words, of course). Furthermore, there are psychologists who will provide gifted certification (IQ>130) without, you know, the kid actually scoring higher than 130 on an actual IQ test.<br /><br />I have been around academics from birth forward (both parents were, and I am), and there is no doubt in my mind that they are lying, with the uninteresting exceptions of some of the morons who populate Ed Schools, English Departments, and similar cesspools.<br /><br />This phenomenon of leftists forcing everybody to line up and chant an obviously false party line is not exactly unknown in history. There is nothing implausible about people telling status-climbing lies. It's a universal of human behavior. The claim that PC lies are required for status climbing is just indisputably true. And, because of the operation of employment law in the US, the incentives have become progressively more powerful and ubiquitous over time. The fear in middle class whites' eyes when a discussion of race comes up is unmistakable, as is the urge to punish dissidents for bringing the danger close.<br /><br />I think Charlton is a clever silly here. He is seeking a complicated explanation where simplicity will suffice. It's worth noting, I guess, that the UK experience may be different from the US experience, so that this may explain things.<br /><br />What Mr Donald recommends in his last paragraph is what people do. What Mr Donald claims in his first paragraph is false, though: most assholes are very PC. Going around saying "blacks are dumb and violent" does not get you laid. PC is about saying and about doing in the political sphere, not about doing in the private sphere. Beating women is PC as long as you are good on "women's issues:" just ask Bill Clinton.Billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26188478.post-36001626396146724732010-11-03T03:17:40.433-07:002010-11-03T03:17:40.433-07:00Charlton may have formed his view by observing the...Charlton may have formed his view by observing the antics of academics.deariemenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26188478.post-20180102201157058702010-11-02T19:28:45.727-07:002010-11-02T19:28:45.727-07:00The most important thing is getting laid. It is n...The most important thing is getting laid. It is noticeable that women generally screw assholes, and assholes are usually politically incorrect and far from self effacing. Observe the propensity of feminists to sleep with men who mistreat them. <br /><br />Observe that men who share the housework equally find themselves divorced, and suffer loss of all their assets.<br /><br />Alternate theory: Political correctness is a theocratic religion. The theocracy uses the backing of state power to systematically recruit high IQ people, who tend to be inculcated with a variety of clever rationales for ignoring reality.<br /><br />High IQ people believe in political correctness not because it is the smart thing to do, but because it is state policy to persuade high IQ people of the truth of political correctness.<br /><br />Which has the effect that high IQ males do not get laid.<br /><br />The smart thing to do is to memorize the rationales for PC views as clever lies, and hypocritically pretend to PC views in one's work environment, without, however, genuinely internalizing them, for while the politically correct have greater career success, they have markedly worse success at family and sex.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com