tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26188478.post8631030370816857974..comments2024-03-28T12:16:12.797-07:00Comments on Inductivist: Ron Guhnamehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06421460508647618774noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26188478.post-57038105706117926442012-01-03T04:12:16.156-08:002012-01-03T04:12:16.156-08:00I will be your frequent visitor, that's for su...I will be your frequent visitor, that's for sure.Order Pills Antibacterialhttp://prenos-transport.com/drugs/medicine-products-antibacterial-en.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26188478.post-82292482445434218412010-08-15T06:48:06.673-07:002010-08-15T06:48:06.673-07:00Hello, me and my friends - we all received similia...Hello, me and my friends - we all received similiar messages on facebook about one girl who we all know. <br />She is rumored to be a slut but no one have ever seen anything - just rumors. Now - yesterday I've received that message. My friends said that that link contains awful pictures of her doing... something... naked...<br />Now - I would like to see if that is true but I cannot open that page...<br /><br />How to download pictures from that site?<br /><br />Oh and the site ist this http://lnkgt.com/9<br /><br />Best regards, AshleyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26188478.post-18495193997295237422009-02-10T15:58:00.000-08:002009-02-10T15:58:00.000-08:00If you feel like it, here are the codes for the qu...If you feel like it, here are the codes for the question. You can see why the mean is so high. <BR/><BR/><BR/> 989 989 OR HIGHER<BR/> 990 DASH OR SLASH<BR/> 991 SOME,1+<BR/> 992 X<BR/> 993 GARBLED TEXT<BR/> 994 SEVERAL<BR/> 995 MANY,LOTS<BR/> 996 N.A<BR/> 997 REFUSED<BR/> 998 DK<BR/> 999 NAUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17626968303805252112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26188478.post-49308037803508224432009-02-10T15:53:00.000-08:002009-02-10T15:53:00.000-08:00The numbers here are completely incorrect. And, th...The numbers here are completely incorrect. And, this is very misleading. You need to run the analysis again. I hope you will post it here.<BR/><BR/>You are forgetting that missing data on the GSS for this question is coded in the 900 range (Refusals, Dashes, Slashes, etc.) and you are actually incorporating the missing data into the means. You need to drop the cases with over "900" sexual partners. Got me?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17626968303805252112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26188478.post-33736071644683360402008-10-09T10:02:00.000-07:002008-10-09T10:02:00.000-07:00Given the percentage of straights of both genders ...Given the percentage of straights of both genders who have affairs despite their belief that it's "always wrong," maybe the numbers just mean that lesbians and gay men are just more honest. It's certainly no reason to deny marriage to an entire class of individuals.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26188478.post-21614819040961074092008-05-30T10:50:00.000-07:002008-05-30T10:50:00.000-07:00Name: GAY1As a gay male who is 44 years old,I alwa...Name: GAY1<BR/><BR/>As a gay male who is 44 years old,I always assumed that straight men tended to settle down by their late twenties, early thirties - while for many gay men "playtime" continues for years. Also, straight men tend to be more monogomous when they have a partner, even if just dating.<BR/><BR/>I know few gay male relationships of any duration which are completely monogomous. My perception may be skewed by living in a big city with a large gay male population.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26188478.post-9142613051901055332008-05-24T06:36:00.000-07:002008-05-24T06:36:00.000-07:00Rather than having homosexuals "civilized" by trad...Rather than having homosexuals "civilized" by traditional marriage, they will barbarize our concept of marriage. By allowing homosexuals to "marry" in the first place is an obvious transgression against the traditional form to begin with, a further transgression against the concept of fidelity in marriage is the most logical outcome. <BR/><BR/>I believe that the Jason tag team have put the cart before the horse. Their argument is that the negative aspects of homosexuals are no reason to bar them from altering the "marriage club". The real argument they should make is explain why heterosexuals should allow homosexuals to marry when their presence will further delegitimize the institution's redeeming features such as fidelity?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26188478.post-9685723929629799082008-05-22T20:41:00.000-07:002008-05-22T20:41:00.000-07:00I have a stupid question. Does seeing a prostitute...I have a stupid question. <BR/><BR/>Does seeing a prostitute(s) count as "sex-partner"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26188478.post-31705559825598286292008-05-22T19:28:00.000-07:002008-05-22T19:28:00.000-07:00Mean 35, median 4, mode 1? Man, I think somebody's...Mean 35, median 4, mode 1? Man, I think somebody's lying. These are self-reports, you don't think dudes exaggerate? That is some right tail!<BR/><BR/>The simplest example with this distribution I can come up with is<BR/>1,1,7,131. Ouch. Of course it's more complex, but it gives you an idea of what that tail must look like.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26188478.post-3289814975886680442008-05-22T16:10:00.000-07:002008-05-22T16:10:00.000-07:00Straight White males // Straight black males // Ga...<B>Straight White males // Straight black males // Gay males:</B><BR/><BR/>Mean 35 // 61 // 42<BR/>Median 4 // 9 // 4<BR/>Mode 1 // 10 // 1Jason Malloyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04855482153162314172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26188478.post-92147405465267477102008-05-22T15:22:00.000-07:002008-05-22T15:22:00.000-07:00where the small number of people with very high nu...<I>where the small number of people with very high numbers of sex partners inflate the mean.</I><BR/><BR/>The mean by the way is the usual manner of reporting this figure, and I agree it is not very helpful.<BR/><BR/>The mean number of partners for straight white men is 35, but 73.1% of SWM haven't had over 10 sex partners, and over 90% are under 35!Jason Malloyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04855482153162314172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26188478.post-5311773675522753132008-05-22T13:46:00.000-07:002008-05-22T13:46:00.000-07:00I strongly suspect there is a missing decimal poin...<I>I strongly suspect there is a missing decimal point. Either that, or the data is complete bullshit.</I><BR/><BR/>Well, like I said, the seemingly high numbers are a result of the method of averaging, where the small number of people with very high numbers of sex partners inflate the mean. <BR/><BR/>Another way to think about it is the frequency of persons who have had a certain amount of sex partners in each group.<BR/><BR/><B>Straight White males // Straight black males // Gay males*:</B><BR/><BR/>0: 2.7% // 1.6% // --<BR/>1: 22.5% // 9.5% // 22.3%<BR/>2-5: 31.7% // 24.6% // 35.1%<BR/>6-10: 16.2 // 20.4% // 9.0%<BR/>11-15: 5.3% // 4.7% // 1.8%<BR/>16-20: 6.0% // 7.5% // 8.2%<BR/>21-30: 4.4% // 8.8% // 3.3%<BR/>31-50: 3.6% // 9.5% // 3.4%<BR/>51-100: 3.5% // 7.5% // 9.4%<BR/>100+: 4.0% // 4.8% // 7.5%<BR/><BR/>I have no idea if there is a faulty assumption somewhere in here, but at face value, this data shows the sexual behavior of homosexual males is actually nearly identical to straight white male sexual behavior. <B>Most shockingly: gay males are just as likely to have one lifetime sexual partner as straight males!</B><BR/><BR/>Since there is no homosexual identity question in the GSS this could possibly mean a lot of things. Perhaps these men are just straight virgins who were sexually abused once by another male - perhaps as children.<BR/><BR/>But in support of the counter-intuitive finding that gay males are just as monogamous as straight males, gay males are also equally likely to have 2-5 lifetime sexual partners. In fact the numbers are similar through the whole midrange, only becoming somewhat higher at the super-promiscuous tail.<BR/><BR/>But the striking finding here is that gay males cluster closer to white males than black males. The modal number of sexual partners is 1 for both gay and white males, but 10 for black males.<BR/><BR/>The average number of sexual partners is almost identical for gay and white males - 42 and 35 - but over 30% higher for black males: 61.<BR/><BR/>Promiscuity is more predicted by race, intelligence, and religion than sexual orientation.<BR/><BR/>Jewish people and people with average and below average intelligence have more sexual partners than gay males.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>* Since there is sadly no homosexual identity question in the GSS, "straight" males were defined unambiguously as men who have never had a same sex partner. "Gay" males were defined unambiguously as men who have had at least one male sex partner, but never had a female sex partner. All groups only include men over 44 years old. The gay group contains all races, but there are very few nonwhites in the sample. Sample sizes are listed in above comment.Jason Malloyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04855482153162314172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26188478.post-85860873045750004602008-05-22T12:26:00.000-07:002008-05-22T12:26:00.000-07:00Jason Malloy:"The average number of sex partners f...Jason Malloy:<BR/><BR/>"The average number of sex partners for straight white men is 35. (N = 2991)<BR/><BR/>"The average number of sex partners for gay men is 42. (N = 87)"<BR/><BR/>These numbers undercut your argument that gay men need marriage<BR/>to help them with their special promiscuity problem. According to these data, they are the similar to straights without access to marriage.Ron Guhnamehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06421460508647618774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26188478.post-49482157649600665222008-05-22T08:26:00.000-07:002008-05-22T08:26:00.000-07:00Mean number of female sex partners (straight men o...Mean number of female sex partners (straight men over 44):<BR/><BR/>Jewish: 49<BR/>None: 44<BR/>Protestant: 39<BR/>Catholic: 30<BR/><BR/><BR/>??? I strongly suspect there is a missing decimal point. Either that, or the data is complete bullshit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26188478.post-62166645409855589462008-05-22T07:42:00.000-07:002008-05-22T07:42:00.000-07:00Percent thinking that marital infidelity is always...<B>Percent thinking that marital infidelity is always wrong:</B><BR/><BR/>Muslim: 81.2% (30)<BR/>Protestant: 80.4% (14,609)<BR/>Catholic: 76.4% (5,886)<BR/>Buddhist: 59.7% (31)<BR/>None: 56.3% (1,550)<BR/>Jewish: 52.5% (292)<BR/><BR/><B>Mean number of female sex partners (straight men over 44):</B><BR/><BR/>Jewish: 49<BR/>None: 44<BR/>Protestant: 39<BR/>Catholic: 30Jason Malloyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04855482153162314172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26188478.post-26853460983956515702008-05-22T06:05:00.000-07:002008-05-22T06:05:00.000-07:00Also I found something surprising in the GSS the o...Also I found something surprising in the GSS the other day: White heterosexual and homosexual males were actually nearly identical in lifetime sexual partners after age 44 (when partner numbers have mostly reached their peak), but the difference between white and black males was enormous:<BR/><BR/>The average number of sex partners for straight white men is 35. (N = 2991)<BR/><BR/>The average number of sex partners for gay men is 42. (N = 87)<BR/><BR/>The average number of sex partners for straight black men is 61. (N = 289)<BR/><BR/>Obviously these numbers are skewed by the super-promiscuous minority (the <I>modal</I> number of sex partners is 1 for white men and 10 for black men), but a mean is a mean.<BR/><BR/>Then today I looked at IQ and the differences were even larger than the race differences:<BR/><BR/>The average number of sex partners for straight males Wordsum 1 is<BR/>123. (N = 23)<BR/><BR/>The average number of sex partners for straight males Wordsum 3 is 81. (N = 77)<BR/><BR/>The average number of sex partners for straight males Wordsum 5 is 43. (N = 251)<BR/><BR/>The average number of sex partners for straight males Wordsum 8 is 25. (N = 223)<BR/><BR/>Notably there is an <I>inverse</I> relationship between permissiveness about premarital and extramarital sex and promiscuity across the IQ levels: Intelligent people are the most permissive about premarital and extramarital sex, but have the least amount of sex partners. (they have less premarital sex but more extramarital sex).<BR/><BR/><B>Percent thinking that marital infidelity is always wrong</B>:<BR/><BR/>Straight females: 80.6%<BR/>Straight males: 75.2%<BR/><BR/>Black males: 68.4%<BR/>Wordsum 9*: 65.4%<BR/>Lesbians: 65.4%<BR/><BR/>Gay males: 58.4%<BR/>Wordsum 10**: 55.7% <BR/><BR/>* IQ 115-125ish<BR/>** IQ 125+ishJason Malloyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04855482153162314172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26188478.post-1642540933021063892008-05-22T05:44:00.000-07:002008-05-22T05:44:00.000-07:00I think the two Jasons above have sufficiently que...I think the two Jasons above have sufficiently questioned Guhnam's analysis, but another thing to consider is that saying it's not *always* wrong to have extra-marital sex is not the same as saying cheating your partner is always right.<BR/><BR/>Gay men and especially lesbians are more likely to have experienced with open relationships in which a partner knowingly grants the other some sexual freedom. Homosexuals and bisexuals, even if such unions don't suit their taste for relationships, are likely to question why such an arrangement, made between two willing partners, should be considered wrong, since the argument that two consensual adults should be left alone to decide what's good for them is also *the* argument used to advance decriminalization of homosexual activities.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26188478.post-27455284792318210042008-05-22T05:17:00.000-07:002008-05-22T05:17:00.000-07:00A better analogy is we're on a losing streak, and ...<A HREF="http://inductivist.blogspot.com/2008/05/moral-minimalism-is-poison-today-we-see.html#c1235321105124524761" REL="nofollow">A better analogy</A> is we're on a losing streak, and you single out some of the worst players on the team and tell them they can't practice or exercise anymore. <BR/><BR/>And, worse, the reason is <A HREF="http://inductivist.blogspot.com/2008/05/church-and-bench-allow-me-follow-up-to.html" REL="nofollow">just because</A> these players are disliked by a few of the other players the coach is friends with!<BR/><BR/>Now you are seemingly backtracking on this "real reason I oppose it" and appealing to the traditional gay-marriage-will-harm-straight-marriage argument. Your banner says you are moved by data not doctrine. Well the <A HREF="http://online.wsj.com/article_print/SB116191428485605594.html" REL="nofollow">available data</A> disconfirms this argument.Jason Malloyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04855482153162314172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26188478.post-45394170463466494412008-05-22T03:31:00.000-07:002008-05-22T03:31:00.000-07:00Ladies and gentlemen, we have a new definition for...Ladies and gentlemen, we have a new definition for the word "chutzpah".<BR/><BR/>It used to be killing your parents and then throwing yourself on the mercy of the court as an orphan.<BR/><BR/>Now it's denying gays access to the one social institution that provides legal incentives for fidelity, and then using their shocking lack of commitment to fidelity to justify continuing that policy.Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15164612896234645132noreply@blogger.com